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		<title>By: is my baby a bully? - Page 2 - Basset Hounds: Basset Hound Dog Forums</title>
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		<dc:creator>is my baby a bully? - Page 2 - Basset Hounds: Basset Hound Dog Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 02:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dog    Hmmm, interesting.. following up with a little research on the subject I found this. The Myth of Alpha Dogs : Life As A Human Also [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Eric Brad</title>
		<link>http://lifeasahuman.com/2010/pets/dogs/the-myth-of-alpha-dogs/comment-page-1/#comment-1228</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Natalie -

No worries at all!  It&#039;s happened to me my whole life...curse of having a &quot;First Name&quot; as a &quot;Last Name&quot;.  

Regarding your response to my article, I think we agree completely with what&#039;s going on with the dynamics in your busy home.  Although the terms we use may differ, it is the humans in the house who maintain the &quot;hierarchy&quot; by determining what is or is not acceptable behaviour.  Sure, some dogs are pushier than others and will be a bit more clever or forceful in pursuit of what they want.  But that&#039;s not status seeking, that&#039;s simple greed...&quot;more for me!&quot;

And it does take a firm and consistent &quot;leader&quot; to maintain order and make sure that things run smoothly.  Does your bunch constitute a &quot;pack&quot;?  Well, if David Mech&#039;s wolf research is to believed, then yes, it does.  And there is no status seeking within wolf packs either.  Only wise and caring adults who maintain order within the group.

Sounds like you have it pretty much together over there!
Thanks for reading!
Eric</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Natalie -</p>
<p>No worries at all!  It&#8217;s happened to me my whole life&#8230;curse of having a &#8220;First Name&#8221; as a &#8220;Last Name&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Regarding your response to my article, I think we agree completely with what&#8217;s going on with the dynamics in your busy home.  Although the terms we use may differ, it is the humans in the house who maintain the &#8220;hierarchy&#8221; by determining what is or is not acceptable behaviour.  Sure, some dogs are pushier than others and will be a bit more clever or forceful in pursuit of what they want.  But that&#8217;s not status seeking, that&#8217;s simple greed&#8230;&#8221;more for me!&#8221;</p>
<p>And it does take a firm and consistent &#8220;leader&#8221; to maintain order and make sure that things run smoothly.  Does your bunch constitute a &#8220;pack&#8221;?  Well, if David Mech&#8217;s wolf research is to believed, then yes, it does.  And there is no status seeking within wolf packs either.  Only wise and caring adults who maintain order within the group.</p>
<p>Sounds like you have it pretty much together over there!<br />
Thanks for reading!<br />
Eric</p>
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		<title>By: Natalie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Natalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric.....Darn, can&#039;t edit post and I don&#039;t check before I post.  Sorry, I know you are Eric and not Brad.
Please forgive me;
natalie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric&#8230;..Darn, can&#8217;t edit post and I don&#8217;t check before I post.  Sorry, I know you are Eric and not Brad.<br />
Please forgive me;<br />
natalie</p>
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		<title>By: Natalie</title>
		<link>http://lifeasahuman.com/2010/pets/dogs/the-myth-of-alpha-dogs/comment-page-1/#comment-1198</link>
		<dc:creator>Natalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 06:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article Brad.

I find myself really taking a look at the way I manage my household of 11 dogs, 2 kids and 2 adults.  I term all my dogs &quot;family&quot;.  However, I also manage them as what I call a &quot;pack&quot; and me as the &quot;leader&quot;.  However, I wonder if I interpret my terminology in the way that you are describing.  

The dogs do have a heirarchy within their &quot;pack&quot; and I do everything to maintain that order within that.  I think that is why I can have so many dogs living in such close proximity without too many interpersonal problems.  I really don&#039;t consider me part of their pack.  I could not care less whether they go through a door before or after me.  

Some of my dogs are more dominant than others and it is entirely situational. Some of the dogs need more &quot;leadership&quot; than others.  And I do have dogs that would &quot;run the house&quot; if I let them.

I remember about 10 years ago when I took my new puppy to the vet (not my usual vet) to have him microchipped.  The vet, who did not know me, proceeded to tell me how to estabolish and maintain  my &quot;dominance&quot;.  He told me that periodically I had to take the dog by the neck scruff and look in his eyes until he looked away.  I thought to myself then, what a bunch of bunk.  My dogs do look to me as the leader, but they will also look me right in the eye with love.  If I caused them to look away in thoughts it would estabolish my &quot;dominance&quot; I think I would loose much of the loving relationship I have with each and every one of them.  I feel very sad when a dog cowers and people think that they need to instill this fear in their dogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article Brad.</p>
<p>I find myself really taking a look at the way I manage my household of 11 dogs, 2 kids and 2 adults.  I term all my dogs &#8220;family&#8221;.  However, I also manage them as what I call a &#8220;pack&#8221; and me as the &#8220;leader&#8221;.  However, I wonder if I interpret my terminology in the way that you are describing.  </p>
<p>The dogs do have a heirarchy within their &#8220;pack&#8221; and I do everything to maintain that order within that.  I think that is why I can have so many dogs living in such close proximity without too many interpersonal problems.  I really don&#8217;t consider me part of their pack.  I could not care less whether they go through a door before or after me.  </p>
<p>Some of my dogs are more dominant than others and it is entirely situational. Some of the dogs need more &#8220;leadership&#8221; than others.  And I do have dogs that would &#8220;run the house&#8221; if I let them.</p>
<p>I remember about 10 years ago when I took my new puppy to the vet (not my usual vet) to have him microchipped.  The vet, who did not know me, proceeded to tell me how to estabolish and maintain  my &#8220;dominance&#8221;.  He told me that periodically I had to take the dog by the neck scruff and look in his eyes until he looked away.  I thought to myself then, what a bunch of bunk.  My dogs do look to me as the leader, but they will also look me right in the eye with love.  If I caused them to look away in thoughts it would estabolish my &#8220;dominance&#8221; I think I would loose much of the loving relationship I have with each and every one of them.  I feel very sad when a dog cowers and people think that they need to instill this fear in their dogs.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Eric
Great article. 

Unfortunately &#039;dominance theory&#039; continues to proliferate the dog training world. I see many dogs abused in the name of training. - dogs labeled as &#039;dominate&#039; or &#039;alpha dogs&#039; that are simply confused or scared because the humans of the world haven&#039;t done a very good job communicating what the rules of the household are.

I applaud you efforts to educated dog owners on a more relevant, accurate and kind approach.  

Well Done!

Suzanne Webb CPDT-KA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Eric<br />
Great article. </p>
<p>Unfortunately &#8216;dominance theory&#8217; continues to proliferate the dog training world. I see many dogs abused in the name of training. &#8211; dogs labeled as &#8216;dominate&#8217; or &#8216;alpha dogs&#8217; that are simply confused or scared because the humans of the world haven&#8217;t done a very good job communicating what the rules of the household are.</p>
<p>I applaud you efforts to educated dog owners on a more relevant, accurate and kind approach.  </p>
<p>Well Done!</p>
<p>Suzanne Webb CPDT-KA</p>
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		<title>By: Racquel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Racquel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 03:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen too many people... particularly men try to dominate their dogs and end up turning them into fearful and aggressive animals.  I hope your message reaches all dog owners!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen too many people&#8230; particularly men try to dominate their dogs and end up turning them into fearful and aggressive animals.  I hope your message reaches all dog owners!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Marissa -

Thanks for reading!

And I agree with you!  While the &quot;myth&quot; this article takes on is the unproven genetic predisposition of dogs to seek status within a &quot;pack&quot;, as members of our households, dogs need the same kinds of guidelines and boundaries that children do.  They need to be taught what is ok and what is not ok.  Jean Donadlson says in her book Culture Clash that our primary responsibility as dog owners is to show our dogs what they need to know to be successful in our lives.

That means setting boundaries, keeping them safe, teaching them, and to a large degree being good parents and stewards for them.  That&#039;s our role.  Not dictators, but people who watch over them and give them what they need to be happy and safe and successful in our world.

Thanks so much for your comments - Marissa and EVERYONE!
Eric</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Marissa -</p>
<p>Thanks for reading!</p>
<p>And I agree with you!  While the &#8220;myth&#8221; this article takes on is the unproven genetic predisposition of dogs to seek status within a &#8220;pack&#8221;, as members of our households, dogs need the same kinds of guidelines and boundaries that children do.  They need to be taught what is ok and what is not ok.  Jean Donadlson says in her book Culture Clash that our primary responsibility as dog owners is to show our dogs what they need to know to be successful in our lives.</p>
<p>That means setting boundaries, keeping them safe, teaching them, and to a large degree being good parents and stewards for them.  That&#8217;s our role.  Not dictators, but people who watch over them and give them what they need to be happy and safe and successful in our world.</p>
<p>Thanks so much for your comments &#8211; Marissa and EVERYONE!<br />
Eric</p>
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		<title>By: Petra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 06:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, Marissa.  

Dogs do need leadership - but that&#039;s not the same as dominating them!  Like you said, I think too many folks are &quot;over the top&quot; on this issue.  Leadership is making sure your dog feels safe in all situations...  something many people are not good at doing (myself included in the *old days* of not understanding the difference between leadership and dictatorship!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Marissa.  </p>
<p>Dogs do need leadership &#8211; but that&#8217;s not the same as dominating them!  Like you said, I think too many folks are &#8220;over the top&#8221; on this issue.  Leadership is making sure your dog feels safe in all situations&#8230;  something many people are not good at doing (myself included in the *old days* of not understanding the difference between leadership and dictatorship!).</p>
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		<title>By: marissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>marissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 01:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>while i agree that there has been by far too much emphasis placed on humans being &#039;the alpha&#039;, i think there is still a grain of truth in dogs needing leaders.  i don&#039;t think that all dogs want to lead or would try to be &#039;alpha&#039;, but i do think that all dogs feel safer and more comfortable when they do have a leader or person that makes them feel as though they can relax and not have to be in charge.   i am not an expert, haven&#039;t done any studies, and my knowledge comes from my own experience with dogs.   
i think that people like &#039;the dog whisperer&#039; have taken the &#039;pack&#039; theory to a whole new, ridiculous level. most things are not one way or another, they are somewhere in between.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>while i agree that there has been by far too much emphasis placed on humans being &#8216;the alpha&#8217;, i think there is still a grain of truth in dogs needing leaders.  i don&#8217;t think that all dogs want to lead or would try to be &#8216;alpha&#8217;, but i do think that all dogs feel safer and more comfortable when they do have a leader or person that makes them feel as though they can relax and not have to be in charge.   i am not an expert, haven&#8217;t done any studies, and my knowledge comes from my own experience with dogs.<br />
i think that people like &#8216;the dog whisperer&#8217; have taken the &#8216;pack&#8217; theory to a whole new, ridiculous level. most things are not one way or another, they are somewhere in between.</p>
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		<title>By: Pam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 01:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thankyou so well put!
Our loveable dogs dont want to control us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankyou so well put!<br />
Our loveable dogs dont want to control us!</p>
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